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hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm jonathan mann. >> and i'm isha sesay at cnn center in atlanta. coming up this hour, questions and answers. the boston bombing suspect communicating with the feds on the driving forces behind the city's marathon attacks. >> cheap, easy, and extremely dangerous. the lethal combination behind the pressure cooker bombs
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>> turned it back over to the city. >> people in a matter of five days and sweeping in. >> a moment of silence at 2:50 p.m., remembering the victims
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one week after bombs killed three people and wounded more than 170. >> okay. let's get detail news on the charges against tsarnaev and what he is telling authorities. erin mcpike is live in boston with more on that. erin, what have investigators learned from the suspect? >> isha, right now we know that dzhokhar tsarnaev can't speak very well. but from what he has indicated to the authorities, he says -- for what he has indicated, no foreign terrorist groups were involved in the bombing. the brothers were radicalized online. they say it's not from online communications, but rather from watching videos online. in the last thing we know is that his older brother tamerlan, the suspect who died a few days after the attacks, was the driving force behind them, isha. >> you touched on his difficulty in speaking. what do we know of how these questioning sessions are actually being carried out? how is he communicating?
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>> a lot of the questions have been yes or no questions basically, and what we have read from the transcript from that hearing earlier today was that he nodded eded affirmatively is the judge there put it in the hearing. >> do investigators feel that they're any closer, and mentally, these are preliminary questions, do they feel they're any closer to establishing a motive for the attacks? >> not necessarily, but from what they've been able to gather, the older brother, tamerlan, who has died evidently felt like islam was under attack and a jihadist basically needed to fight back. and that is what they believe is the force behind it. >> in all of this, now, we're hearing that dzhokhar, according to the transcripts is saying that his brother was the leader in all of this, allegedly. what is a sense as we talk to sources as to how cooperative dzhokhar is being with authorities right now?
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>> essentially, they think that he is cooperating. i mean, he has answered the questions. as you know, as you mentioned, he is heavily sedated. but he has been cooperative. now they asked if he could afford an attorney, and that's the one thing he answered by speaking, which is that he said no. so he was then provided with a group of defense attorneys, isha. >> of course, a key line of investigation is the deceased brother, as he was known, suspect number one tamerlan tsarnaev who died in the early morning shoot-out with police, trying to piece together his movements. we know he left the country last year, and his wife remains. catherine russell. have authorities been able to speak to her? because of course she is an important person to speak to. >> well, cnn's chris lawrence has actually been tracking those developments. and what he has found is she is too distraught to speak. an attorney is speaking on her behalf. and so he is cooperating yes,
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but right now she has been saying to him that she didn't know anything of this plot beforehand. although, of course, as you know, tamerlan, her husband was in russia for six months last year. and that i think will be the driving force behind the investigation going forward. >> yeah. erin mcpike joining us in boston with the latest. erin, we appreciate it. thank you. we are also getting new information on tamerlan tsarnaev who was killed in the manhunt, as you heard us just discuss with erin. >> as brian todd reports, his beliefs and his behavior took a radical turn in the run-up to the boston attack. >> reporter: new information on tamerlan tsarnaev's perspective on islam. january 18th, friday prayers at the islamic society of boston's mosque in cambridge. a mosque leader is giving a service, ex-tolling the virtues of the profit mohammed and martin luther king jr. according to mosque officials,
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it was too much for tamerlan tsarnaev. >> some people said that he said something to the effect that you cannot, you know, compare or make a parallel between a prophet and a non-muslim. some people said that he referred to the person who was giving the sermon as a hypocrite. >> reporter: he says the disruption was a clear violation of mosque etiquette. he said people in attendance explained that to tamerlan tsarnaev, told him to back off. mosque officials say it was the second time he had objected to something said at a sermon. we pressed them. were there any red flags that tamerlan tsarnaev had been radicalized? >> unfortunately, there were no indications. and if trained specialists from the fbi were not able to see anything, i'm -- you know, i'm sure you can understand how people who are merely acquainted with these individuals, seeing them sporadically at prayers would not see, you know, anything of this nature as well.
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>> reporter: mosque officials say dzhokhar tsarnaev never came to the mosque without his older brother. friends and acquaintances told cnn tamerlan tsarnaev was the leader between the two brothers. one friend saying dzhokhar was definitely saying, quote, definitely the follower in this situation. john pinto owns a brazilian restaurant in the tsarnaev's neighborhood. in recent months he saw the brothers come in, sometimes sitting down, sometimes getting chicken and lamb for takeout. pinto says tamerlan tsarnaev always walked in front of his younger brother, swaggering, looking serious and tough. >> the way i understand, the way i believe i think the big brother is the one in the command. like he is the one he said okay, let's go, we do, this we do this, whatever. he is the one always going in front. and the other one is behind him. >> reporter: it may not have always been that way. rose, a lifeguard with tsarnaev at harvard in the spring and summer of 2011. she says this about the younger brother. >> there was an effort to sort
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of create some distance between himself and his older brother, just because they didn't see the world quite from the same way. >> reporter: neighbors gave us new information on the broader family dynamic. this is the top floor apartment here on norfolk street in cambridge where the tsarnaev family lived. neighbors say the entire family, parents, brothers, and sisters lived here together at one point. one neighbor told us he observed tension in the family when they all lived together. it was at this address where tamerlan tsarnaev was arrested in july 2009 for assaulting his girlfriend. the complaint doesn't show her name. but quotes tamerlan tsarnaev as saying yes, i slapped her. neighbors tell us they thought the tension in the family dissipated after the parents and sisters moved out a couple of years ago. brian todd, cnn, boston. >> and one perspective there from brian todd. let's dig deeper into the background of the man who apparently was the driving force behind the boston terror attack. >> atika shubert has a timeline of key events in his life. >> here is what we know about
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tamerlan tsarnaev. he was born in 1986 as a chechen refugee in curring stan. in 2001 his family moved to dagestan, and a year later the family, with younger brother dzhokhar moved to the united states. but tamerlan only moved to the u.s. in 2003, and there his passion was boxing. in 2009 he competed in the golden gloves tournament, losing in the first round. and even then he considered himself a devout muslim. but by 2011, his religious fervor had grown. he was praying five times a day, but also growing increasingly frustrated with his american life. now that same year, the fbi interviewed tamerlan after a tip from russian officials. but the fbi concluded he was not a threat. then in january 2012, he returns to russia for six months. and he came back to the united states with a beard. his aunt says that in that time, he spent at least a month in dagestan. it is now a regional hotbed for radicals.
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but the questions are what did he do, where did he go, whom did he meet. what we do know is when he returned to the u.s., he opened a youtube account, posting increasingly militant islamist videos, including one from this man, abu dujana, a self-styled jihadist leader from dagestan. and he is associated with this man, duku umeroff. this man has been dubbed the osama bin laden of chechnya. he as vowed to attack not just russia, but the u.s. importantly, his group has denied any responsibility for boston marathon bombings. it's not known whether tamerlan ever met with dujana or umeroff. as the investigation continues, a number of open questions have been raised. could tamerlan have met either of these men? did he learn gun handing or bomb-making from them or any of their foot soldiers? until now, there has been no
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evidence chechen radicals have ever tried to attack the united states. atika shubert, cnn, london. >> and so the detective work continues. we're going to leave the trail of that investigation, though, and move to another, canada stops an alleged terror plot there in its tracks. >> why police say there was an international connection. ow did? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your family's future? we'll help you get there.
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welcome back, everyone. it's approaching a quarter past 1:00 here on the u.s. east coast. we turn our attention to canada now. authorities that there say they foiled a terror plot and arrested two suspects, officials
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say the men were planning to attack a passenger train traveling between canada and the u.s. more now on who may have been helping the suspects. >> reporter: canadian police say after months of surveillance, two suspects are now in custody and charged with conspiracy to commit a terrorist act. this plot they say allegedly involved trying to derail or bomb trains that would be the via passenger trains here in canada. but they also say this had a link to al qaeda from iran, something we have not heard before in connection with terrorist cells. take a listen. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. now, i can tell you that there is no information to indicate that these attacks were state-sponsored. >> the suspects will appear in court tuesday morning. police say that they believe this was a real threat, but not an imminent threat. they want to be clear this had no connection to the boston
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bombings, but also at no time was the public in danger. they say this because they allowed many elements telephone plot to carry out at the same time wire-tapping phones and computers and homes and addresses to be able to listen in and gather more evidence. they do say that the threat was not imminent at all, but that it was a real threat, a real threat to perhaps even derail or target a train from canada into the united states. paula newton, cnn, ottawa. >> iran denies all allegations that al qaeda is operating inside its borders and deny nice connection to the terror plot in canada. here is something you may want to me if you're taking a trip. the u.s. transportation security administration is holding off on a plan you may have heard of to now allow passengers to carry small knives on commercial aircraft. just three days before the new rule was to go into effect. the tsa was under pressure from lawmakers and others who are worried that the change might compromise flight safety. no one really wanted to see those knives on board.
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officials say they will delay the rule so they can further review comments from the public. among the most vocal opponents, no surprise, unions representing flight attendants. the fbi's top ten most wanted criminalist is down to nine tonight. 31-year-old eric toth was a former private school teacher in washington who is wanted on child pornography charges. officials say the explicit images were discovered on a school camera toth had been using. toth was arrested in nicaragua where he had been living under an assumed identity. and this is a horrific story. we're following it as closely as we. police in india have arrested a second suspect in the alleged rain of a 5-year-old girl in new delhi. now the child's family says police actually offered them hush money not to mention the attack. >> cnn's mina uras reports from new delhi on a case that has shocked people around the world. >> reporter: the gruesome rain of a 5-year-old girl in the
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indian capital is once again prompting daily protests in new delhi. this time we're not seeing the spontaneous large scale protests we saw in december after the student was gang-raped on a moving bus. this time the protests are being organized by many opposition parties. they even stalled both houses of parliament today. but still, many people here are shocked by the number of rain cases being reported in the media every single day, and the gruesome nature of many of these cases. the delhi police commissioner is facing the brunt of criticism as there are accusations that the police did not act quickly enough, and that two police officers allegedly bribed the family of the 5-year-old girl to not report the case. this allegation is still being investigated. many protesters here are asking for the police commissioner's resignation. but he says he is not the problem. >> if my resigning will prevent such depraved actions of the society, then i am prepared to
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resign a thousand times. but that is not going to address the problem. >> reporter: the police commissioner went on the say that 97% of these rains actually take place inside homes in india, not in public spaces systems of the police and authorities should not be held accountable for knoll being able to prevent many of these crimes. in fact, the alleged rapist was the 5-year-old girl's neighbor. he has been arrested and so has his accomplice. meanwhile, the 5-year-old girl is recovering inside the hospital. doctors say she is in a stable condition now. cnn, new delhi. >> and cnn newsroom will continue right after this. lowe" as a preferred pharmacy, walgreens can save you as much as 75% compared to other select pharmacies. walgreens, at the corner of happy and healthy.
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welcome back. we're copping up on 23 minutes after the hour. first, the boston attacks, then the aftermath. now the investigation to tell you about. a u.s. government source says suspected bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev has told investigators his deceased older brother tamerlan was the driving force behind last week's deadly attack on the boston marathon. >> he denies any international groups were behind the bombing. he was charged monday during an official court hearing at his hospital bedside. >> the younger tsarnaev who is recovering from a gunshot wound to the neck communicated to officials mostly by nodding his head. but he did actually speak the word no when asked if he could afford his own lawyer. now on to another story we are following closely for you. england's football association
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is charging liverpool striker luis schwarz. >> it came 56 he sank his teeth into an opponent. >> that is not going to be enough. patrick snell joins us now to talk a little bit more about all of this. patrick, good to have you with us. he is being charged by the fa. is liverpool standing by their man? >> very much so, isha, john. this is exactly what is happening. i want to say for the first time, suarez hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons. you may recall he is also in trouble for racially abusing patrice evers in nevin. liverpool standing by the man. he scored 30 goals already this season. his club says look, he is too valuable to lose. so what is next for suarez? >> it affects his future in the sense that we have to work with him on his discipline. but luis is a very important player to the club. he is a very popular player with his teammates.
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as we keep saying, he signed a new four-year contract last summer with all of the same here throughout the contract. he is a fantastic player, top scorer, everything we would want in a striker. so no change there. i think this is more about, you know, getting him become on the right track. and as i say, that's largely down to brendan now to work with him on that side of his character. >> so you can see there how much liverpool is standing by hip as a club. and he is no stranger to controversy. we know this. >> but i think that those -- just want to say that those are going to say wow, that's condoning bad behavior just because of what you're worth on the pitch which is a terrible precedent, a terrible example to young people. >> the problem liverpool have, isha, he just signed a new four-year contract. a legal minefield as well. we're getting plenty of reaction not just on twitter. he could well have played doing the homework earlier in the day, he could well have played his last game of the season. there is only four games left. any ban is probably going to
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take him into a good portion next season. they'll certainly be watching the situation very carefully indeed, especially in his homeland. >> i'm a fan. i think he is a worker's player. but he is making workers stupid of himself with all these incidents. i don't know what is going on in his mind. what can i say in i don't know. i don't know if he is antics, you know. but as a player he is first class, no doubt about it. >> i think suarez's story is poetic. the poor guy that comes from a little town in uruguay and becomes one of the most valuable players in the world. he is capable of doing the best thing and the bad things, and the most bad things like happened yesterday. he is an animal in a good way and in a bad way. >> because he scores goals. 24 english premier league goals, 30 in all competitions. rightly or wrongly, goals talk. >> i guess. >> we'll see what happens to him, whether it's going to be
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suspension, anger management classes they've been talking about. >> all valid points. >> apparently the police are not getting involved. it will be football that answer. >> exactly. >> let's talk about football. big news. an insurmountable lead this season decided. >> it's all over. it's the 20th record-extending i'll calling it english league crown for manchester united. monday they beat aston villa by three goals. and you know who, robin van persie, the flying dutchman scoring a hat trick in about 32 minutes or so in northwest england. and that was enough. unite have had an insurmountable lead. the title is staying in manchester. it's going from blue to red, and united got the job done. i know their fans worldwide want them to do better on the european stage and go on and win a european cup. but look, for now at least be content with another premier league title. and the big, big thing for united fans is that now they got two ahead of their old rivals
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liverpool who have been stuck on 18 since may 1990. united fans worldwide, there are legions of them worldwide. they're very happy indeed. >> there are some in my family. >> indeed? >> there are indeed. they'll be doing a jig tonight. >> patrick snell, thank you very much. actress reese witherspoon has changed her tune considerably since her arrest friday night here in atlanta. >> have you been following this story? we sure have. the 37-year-old star of "legally blond" among other films has issued a public apology. not quite so blond anymore we have to note. that's her mug shot on the left, kind of a shy, blushing mug shot at that. her husband was arrested for dwi. witherspoon was charged with disorderly conduct. witherspoon said i clearly had one drink too many and i'm deeply embarrassed about the things i said. i was disrespectful to the officer who was just doing his job. have i nothing but respect for the police, and i'm very sorry for my behavior. >> a court official says the actress will go through a pretrial intervention program to avoid a conviction. we're getting a clearer idea of what may have motivated the
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boston marathon bombers. >> the suspects aren't in russia sheds light on one of the accused in particular. four, three, two, one. >> a dramatic demonstration of the massive power of a pressure cooker bomb. >> that's the same device the boston bombers used to unleash a week of terror in this city. oh, boy. [ groans ] ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪
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hello, everyone, and welcome back to cnn's live coverage of the aftermath of the boston terror attacks. i'm isha sesay. >> and i'm jonathan mann. it's 32 minutes after the hour. it is a relief if true. dzhokhar tsarnaev says he and his deceased brother acted alone. >> that's from a government source who says tsarnaev also told authorities his brother tamerlan was the driving force behind the attack. well, a measurement of silence was held monday, one week after a pair of bombs killed three people and wounded more than 170. >> the tsarnaev family has deep ties to russia's once embattled chechnya. and tamerlan's journey back to those roots drew questioning by the fbi a couple of years ago at russia's request. >> that's because an an alarming change seen in tamerlan's behavior. >> reporter: she knew the alleged elder boston bomber as a
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child and saw tamerlan tsarnaev grow up and then leave for america. but strangest to his aunt was his return to here last year, a devout muslim. >> >> translator: the hand prayed the two brothers before they went to america. tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he is not related to. they're not important to him because it's a sin to even look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here, and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days. i don't know where his relative there's lived. they were from his father's side. i do know that village was bombed in the second war, though. >> reporter: as pictures of boston played out around the world, she reveals that the mother rang the boys to check if they were well. but later that week they rang her again, allegedly when they
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were on the run, just the day before tamerlan died. the day before, she said they spoke, and it was like always, mommy, everything is fine with us. mommy, we're totally fine. mommy, that's what they call her. >> translator: we miss your warmth and caress, they said. tamerlan said "mommy, i love you clothe. and dzhokhar's voice came in from a distance saying "i love you too, mommy." she watched the boys' father filmed here earlier on the week, seen him on the news for the first time. and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them.
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he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >> reporter: nick walsh, cnn. it was russia that asked the fbi to look into tamerlan tsarnaev's activities back in 2011. moscow said the older brother was increasingly turning to radical islam. bill black joins us now live from moscow where it is 9:36 in the morning. phil, the chronology of this may surprise people, because it seems that the return to radical islam, the request from moscow came before he traveled back to his ancestral homeland. is that the word you're hearing from russian officials, that they were worried even before they let him back in the country?
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>> reporter: it's what the chronology seems to indicate, yonathan, yes. somewhere here in russia, within the russian security force there's is a file with tamerlan tsarnaev's name on it. but so far the russian security forces are not revealing what is in it or precisely why they were worried about him back in 2011, when he -- when they asked the fbi to investigate and look into precisely what their concerns were. we know from the fbi that the russian said he had become a follower of radical islam, that his views had changed dramatically since 2010. and this was just as he was preparing to travel back to russia to join in their words unspecified group. so that information is still pretty vague. but it does support the chronology, particularly if you listen to what we're hearing from tsarnaev's family in dagestan, which is that by the time he arrived to visit them in 2012, he was already overtly religious. he was very devout. they were surprised by how
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religious he had become. and they believed that this was something that he had taught himself while he was still in the united states. jonathan? >> phil, i know we're having some audio problems. if you can still hear us, a key question in this as this investigation continues, and it seems like a crucial one to really figure out what happened in boston and even more so why it happened, it's no secret the kremlin and washington don't always see eye to eye. they certainly don't see eye to eye when it comes to chechnya, when it comes to the global war on terrorism. how much does that friction affect what we're eventually going to learn? >> it is an interesting question, jonathan, because relations between the united states and russia have been very frosty, particularly over the last 12 to 18 months or so. you've had here in russia a great deal of anti-americanism. and in the united states increasing frustration and intolerance with that tone of talk from here. so particularly at the political level, relations have been very
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poor. historically, it's obviously not the first time relations have been poor between these two countries. but normally even at their lowest point, beneath that political level, where government officials continued to work with their counterparts on the other side, those relations have usually remained constructive, particularly at points where national interest between russia and the united states converge, like for example in dealing with terrorism. so, again, we haven't heard the russian version, precisely why they asked, what they said, just what their dealings with u.s. officials were. but the u.s. side said that they received the requests from russia. they went and checked this guy out. they didn't find anything. they sent more questions back to russia. and then didn't hear anything again after that. so it's certainly something that i think is going to be looked at very closely as the united states examines the handling of this case. >> a puzzle at the center of the investigation. phil black live in moscow. thanks very much. isha. there are two critical
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questions for the surviving tsarnaev. are there any more bombs out there, and did the brothers have any help in setting up their murderous attacks? according to sources, investigators are questioning him regularly. they're interviewing him in his hospital room while he is under the care of his doctors. one of the most frightening things about the attack in boston is just how simple the bombs were to make. to learn how to protect against this type of explosive you have to know what they can do. cnn commission and explosives expert to build a pressure cooker bomb, and david mattingly reports on what he learned. >> reporter: at this remote desert testing ground, experts from new mexico tech replicate and explode bombs used by terrorists. on this day, there is a sense of urgency. >> after boston, what are you worried about? could this be the future of domestic terrorism? >> you're always worried about copycats. are more and more people going to be using this? >> this is a pressure cooker bomb similar to the bombs in boston and we're to be set it off.
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>> eric, going to do the countdown? >> reporter: in the wrong hands we already know how deadly this bomb can be. and we're not taking any chances. for safety reasons, we've had to retreat to this mountaintop here. we are now over a quarter of a mile away from where we left that pressure cooker. but that is still not far enough to avoid flying shrapnel. so we're watching from inside a bunker. >> five, four, three, two, one. wow. that white smoke looks just like what we saw in boston. >> yep. >> i could feel it all the way up here. >> oh, yeah. the shockwave will travel all the way. >> reporter: but down blow is the real shock. at this point we're looking for fragments. one bomb turned into thousands of weapons scattered more than 100 yards. this was part of the pressure cooker, now mangled and razor sharp. >> no wonder so many people got hurt. >> reporter: instead of nails, we filled the pot with nuts from
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a hardware start. shot out like bullets, they pierced hard wood. some even melted from the heat. look at the back of it. how fast were these things moving when they went out? >> they can travel a thousand, 2,000 feet a second. >> that's faster than sound. >> that's right. they'll move faster than the speed of sound. these things will get in front of the shockwave and hit you before the pressure wave does. >> you're hit before you even hear it. >> that's right. >> here is what the blast looks like using a high-speed camera. an intense ball of fire less than 20 feet across. but watch the white rings on the desert floor. that's the shockwave. engineers studying this blast say there is a lesson in here for first responders. >> let's say i'm a first responder. what do i need to be aware of when i come up on a scene like this? >> well, there is a loft shrapnel around. it's very hot. it's very sharp. you could easily cut yourself. there could be unexploded ordnance, parts of the bomb that are still left over that didn't explode when it was supposed to explode.
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that could go off at any time. >> reporter: but for potential bystanders out of this demonstration there are only words of caution. by the time you hear the boom, you could already be hit. awareness of your surroundings could be the only defense. david mattingly, cnn, secoro, new mexico. more help arriving in southwestern china, where survivors of saturday's earthquake are in desperate need of food and water and shelter. chinese state media are now reporting that at least 192 people were killed in the disaster, but more than 11,000 were injured. meanwhile, a territorial dispute between china and japan is heating up. japan says eight chinese ships have entered its territorial waters near the senkaku islands. china calleds them the dialu. more from beijing with all on this. ivan, how should we read this development regarding the chinese ships entering these
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waters? is this part of previous cat and mouse games we've seen between these two countries, or is it something more serious. >> reporter: absolutely. these uninhabited islands in the east china sea have been the source of a lot of tension between china and japan in past months where you had, you know, planes and warships putting radar locks on each other and all sorts of accusations. and as you mentioned, cat and mouse games. the latest round taking place this morning as reports of a flotilla of national japanese activists were headed towards these uninhabited islands, and then china announcing that it was russiaing more of its coast guard ships into the area to a total of eight now. now, we've spoken with the japanese coast guard, a public relations officer telling us that japanese coast guard ships warned the chinese ships over the radio to leave the area, and the chinese, according to the
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japanese coast guard responded by saying no, this is chinese territory. so the dispute over these islands which are even given different names according to japan and china continues. and it really is a source of friction. isha? >> for our viewers watching this here in the united states and around the world, the question is could this lead to a broader clash. >> well, that is really a concern. and certainly at a time when perhaps countries in the region and certainly the u.s. would like to see perhaps more cooperation over another potential flash point in north korea. here you have these two countries, china and japan, the biggest economic powers in the region that have consistently engaged in wars of words and moved their coast guard vessels and even warplanes around each other over these five little
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islands that don't even have anybody living on them. perhaps some of this stems from nationalistic and patriotic fervor with both of these countries laying a claims to these islands going back more than a century. but some of it also may be over economic concerns, because the u.s. government has estimated in the past that there could be tens of millions of barrels of oil untapped in the east china sea. and of course whoever lays claim to these islands and can control them can have easier access should the day ever come when drilling for that oil could one day come. so there are a lot of different reasons why these two countries continue to argue so fervently over what are basically a pile of rocks. >> indeed. >> in the east china sea. >> you said it, a pile of rocks. but the tensions continue to rise over the issue of who owns them. ivan watson joining us there in beijing, thank you. you know, it's a situation we'll
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continue to follow. as we said, deep concern that this could escalate. >> politics, history, and money. nations go to war for less. so we will be watching it. you're watching cnn newsroom as north korea struggles to feed its people. >> we look at the plight of a former pow who longs to see his family before it is too late. let's other people see what's on your screen. and these are the material studies. the dog was my suggestion. aleigh. aleigh! it's great. but i'm on vacation for another week, remember? oh, right! i'll call you tomorrow! ok. but don't. carol? the blackberry z10 with screen share. powerful communication on the powerful network. verizon. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery
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welcome back, everyone. the u.s. says it would consider restarting its food aid program to north korea, but only if american monitors are allowed into the secretive country. >> that's the thing. u.s. special envoy to north korea robert king says washington would need to know that the food is actually going to the north korean people, not, for example, to the military. he says that despite bellicose redrick out of pyongyang in recent weeks, the u.s. doesn't tie humanitarian needs to political considerations. u.s. shipments of food aid to north korea stalled in 2009. and that's not the only thing that stalled. family reunions between north and south koreans have also been halted for three years amid the growing tensions on the peninsula. >> and that's causing heartbreak for many families, especially a former p.o.w. who is nearing the end of his life. anna koryn reports. >> reporter: in a small humble
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flat in the suburbs of seoul is an 81-year-old man who knows he is running out of time. precious time to find his family. he was born in north korea, and when the korean war broke out in 1950, he joined the army to fight for his country. but months later, he was captured by u.n. soldiers and held prisoner for three years. when he was finally released at the end of the war, he made a decision that would change the course of his life. >> translator: i was taking freedom, so i decided to stay here, he tells me. many of my friends went back to north korea, but i was young. i chose not to. instead, he became a carpenter, married a south korean, and raised three children in seoul. despite the signing of the armistice in 1953, the two koreas have technically been at
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war, leaving hundreds of thousands of people like mr. chon separated from their families for the past 60 years. >> translator: it's harder during the holidays. i think of my parents who must be dead, my siblings, my hometown, and i burst into tears. i feel very lonely. in 1985, north and south korea allowed a reunion to take place. since then, 17 other reunions have occurred. the most recent in 2010 involving almost a thousand people. but according to south korean officials, there are up to 130,000 people who have registered missing family members in the north. south korea's new president park geun-hye made a promise during her campaign that she would try and organize another reunion. but with escalating tensions on the peninsula and relations between the two countries at an
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all-time low, that now looks highly unlikely. which is heartbreaking for mr. chon. just a few months ago, the grandfather of two received a phone call from the red cross telling him that his surviving family in north korea were looking for him. >> translator: i was overjoyed to get that call, but now i don't know what is going to happen. the future doesn't look so bright anymore. his wife listens on, worried about her husband of more than 50 years. how many days do you think he has left? he just wants to see their faces. he just wants to see his family one more time. anna coren, cnn, seoul. we're coming up on five minutes to the top of the hour, and we're just getting reports in of a large explosion near the french embassy in tripoli. news agencies say it was a car bomb attack and that two guards have been wounded. we'll bring you more details as they come in.
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and now to a pair of stories expected to be in the news ahead. starting with apple's earnings, its quarterly results are expected to shrink for the first time in a decade. decade. iphone sales are in a slump. shares have plunged 55% over the past six months. can you remember life before youtube? the website turned 8 years old today. >> here we are, one of thealfants. >> this clip is the very first youtube video. that is the website cofounder at the san diego zoo. >> business partners sold to google for a whopping $1.65 billion. ♪ >> that is the most watched
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video on youtube. "gangnam style" with more than $1.5 billion views. >> youtube has become the number one source of viral videos, cat videos in particular like this post showing a cat playing with a vacuum cleaner. what is it about cats on youtube? i don't know. this is one of the most watched videos this week. >> you are watching cnn news room live. we will have more on the boston investigation. >> stay with cnn. [ tires screech ]
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